High Output Alternators 101

Generally speaking, there are a few things you should be aware of when installing a high output alternator.  Installing and wiring it correctly will ensure you get all the performance it’s capable of.

Electrical Considerations

  1. The stock charge lead is typically inadequate for a high output alternator.  We recommend the following minimum cable size for traditional installations where the battery is under the hood:
  • Alternators making up to 100A – 6 AWG
  • Alternators making up to 170A – 4 AWG
  • Alternators making up to 225A – 2 AWG
  • Alternators making up to 300A – 1/0 AWG
  • Alternators making over 300A – 2/0 AWG

We do also offer 3/0 and even 4/0 AWG for very high output or multiple units.

  1. Most OEM charge leads have a fusible link on them.  Its purpose is to protect on-board electronics in the event that the regulator fails and causes “voltage run-away.”  Although this is quite uncommon, fusing the charge lead of a high output alternator can provide the same protection.  Most commonly, we see fusible link wire or JCASE™, MIDI, or MAXI fuses.  If you want to preserve this when upgrading your cabling, we offer all of those options as well.
  2. The return path for a stock alternator is typically through the engine block – alternator case to mounting bracket, mounting bracket to cylinder head, cylinder head to block, block to battery negative.  This really isn’t suitable for any alternator capable of making greater than 100A.  Therefore, all our alternator wiring kits (or Big 3 Upgrade Kits) include new ground cables to upgrade the return path accordingly.  Our testing has shown that without them, you’ll forfeit 20% or more of the output your new alternator is capable of – power you’ve paid for that simply isn’t available to you.
Alternator Return Path Upgrade

Mechanical Considerations

  1. The correct tension on a v-belt is when you can grab the belt by hand along its longest length and turn it 90deg only.  If you can turn it further than 90deg, it’s not tight enough.  We typically do this cold, then run the engine to operating temperature and then check it again, sometimes re-tightening.  The belt may seat itself further into the pulleys after some run time.  Indications that the belt is not tight enough are squealing on startup (or when your fans kick on) or a hot belt that can actually melt a bit after some run time.
High-Output Alternator Belt Alignment
  1. High output alternators place a greater load on the drive belt than the stock unit they’re replacing.  Therefore, pulleys must be correctly aligned and the alternator pulley must have as much contact surface with the belt as is possible – the more belt wrap the better.
  2. At idle, most of our Mechman alternators are capable of outputting in excess of 140A when driven at 3X crankshaft speed.  Now, that doesn’t mean that you’ll see 140A when you put an ammeter clamp on the charge lead.  What that means is that when the load of the accessories demands it, the alternator can output up to this amount.  The proper way to test this is with a carbon pile load.  We use a Snap-On MT3750 with an internal 500A carbon pile to achieve this.  The load is applied via the carbon pile until voltage at the battery terminals drops to 12V, the output amperage of the alternator recorded, and compared to the rating.  We’ve not seen a Mechman alternator yet that wouldn’t achieve the published specs, and often by good margin.
Snap-On MT 3750 AVR showing output of a high-output alternator.

  1. Ideally, we like to see between 13.4 and 13.8V of output at the battery terminals with all accessories ON after the vehicle has reached operating temp, and after the vehicle has been driven a bit.  This means that the alternator can deliver all of the current the accessories require, maintain a surface charge on the battery, and there is no risk of overcharging the battery.  For example, many think 14.8V is better than 13.8V.  About the only thing that’s better at is shortening the life of a battery, and dramatically if it’s an AGM.  Such high voltage will boil the electrolyte out of a flooded lead acid battery over time as well but such a battery can live longer than an AGM when being subjected to this.
  2. When a charging system is properly wired with cable of the correct gauge, accessories wired with the correct wire gauge, and all terminations done by the book, the voltage drop of highly inductive loads (like fans) are actually amplified.  This is because current can be delivered and isn’t caught up in the bottleneck of poor connections, undersized wiring, etc.  For example, kicking a big pair of fans on high speed can absolutely cause a BIG voltage dip which can be seen on a voltmeter, dimming lamps on the dash, etc.  The regulator of the alternator does not respond fast enough to increase its output with such a dip (which is measured in milliseconds) as it monitors the charge state of the battery.  However, a new, fresh battery made of virgin lead with low ESR – say an XS Power – can absolutely minimize this.

Take your time installing your new alternator with quality cables and components from CE Auto Electric Supply and the effort will pay off in spades.

Charging Systems 101

We are often asked, “How do I make my charging system bulletproof?” While there is no single answer, here are the three fundamental areas of focus.

Use Quality Parts, Sized to the Application

Sure, that’s why you’re here. Our site is full of the highest quality parts available and it’s our mission to ensure that you get the performance you’re looking for. It’s always less costly over the long haul to be realistic with yourself about the application and your expectations.

For example, if you’ve added a bunch of accessories to your vehicle which it was not originally equipped, the stock alternator may simply not be large enough. Helping you choose the correct size alternator, cables, etc – it’s what we do. So, you’ve done all that – what then?

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The Truth About the Big 3 Upgrade

Wow! There seems to be a ton of misinformation about this topic around. I’ve seen and heard some pretty far-fetched stuff. Keep in mind that all of our Big 3 Upgrade Kits are a direct reflection of our findings in regards to measured performance and our thirty years of experience in upgrading vehicle charging systems, not something we read on the internet.

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